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  1. @Derek1987 - I live 1 hour away from the nearest hospital and used to have to frequent the ER often. I always had my husband drive me but once or twice I called my PCP and he at that time advised me to call the ambulance ( which I did not ). I personally think that if your symptoms are such that there is concern for a true emergency I would definitely call 911. Also if you are not able to handle a drive to the ER or if you feel you need immediate help. What @MomtoGiuliana said is also a benefit from calling 911 - they can check you at home and you may find that you do not need to go. But ALWAYS: if in doubt - call 911!!! The medicine you took to bring up your BP - was it Midodrine? That will cause scalp tingling - it is a "normal" and harmless side effect.
  2. Dear @kkirsten - I can see how these symptoms worry you - I would ask your doctor for a D-dimer ( blood test that detects blood clots ) and a CT scan. You can also go to the ER - your symptoms certainly warrant a visit if your PCP does not want to order any tests. And they can do everything right there and then and if all is well you can go home relieved.
  3. I am not sure if this issue is related to dysautonomia - have you checked with your doctor? And also - with no offense - could it be normal aging? I am not sure how old you are, I am 52 and have this stiffness every morning and if I kneel too long my legs hurt - and often I have trouble getting back up as well. In my case I am attributing it to the aging process. I would get checked by your doctor.
  4. @outofadream - I am very familiar with these spells that you describe. In my case they usually result in full syncope or seizures ( autonomic, not epileptic ). That resets the system. Lying down often just delays this - it will feel better lying down but returns when I get back up. Have you tried any medication for this, like midodrine, fludrocortisone or beta blockers?
  5. As far as I know that is because they have been in a zero-gravity environment for an extended period of time - when they acclimate to the earth's gravity they return to normal. Their problem is the OUTSIDE gravitational force - in dysautonomia the problem is within the body not being able to resist the gravity on earth ( blood pooling ). Normally our bodies can compensate for this ( we have adjusted o the continuous change in gravity when standing up ) but in dysautonomia this compensatory mechanism no longer works. That is the difference between astronauts and even long-term bedridden people: once they return to compensating to the upright position their bodies adjust. In true dysautonomics there will be an abnormal reaction to the upright posture WITHOUT being supine for too long or WITHOUT being in a zero-gravity environment. However - for a dysautonomic being immobile for too long will TRIGGER the abnormal response.
  6. @DizzyGirls - I cannot actually give you a scientific answer to your question but I can tell you this: I was on several BBs ( Metoprolol, Bystolic, Propanolol ) and had some relief - temporarily - with one or the other of them. Nothing ever lasted, the one that eventually helped my PVC's and tachycardia was Carvelidol. However - what controlled my HR and elevated BP was adding a calcium channel blocker to the mix. It took YEARS to find the right combo in my case, so I can tell you that it is not necessarily ONE single med that will bring the relief - it most likely will be a combination of different meds that help. --- I know that this is frustrating but it is often the reality. -- Best wishes - stay strong!!!!!
  7. @kkirsten - when you get a stress test the goal is to get your HR up to what would be the accurate EXERCISE HR for your age -- mine is 150"s. And they want to see you sustain it and they WANT you to exert yourself - getting short-of-breath is the desired reaction and it is normal. Problems occur when you get these symptoms when you DO NOT exert yourself - simply by the act of standing up. When you get a stress test they are looking if you are developing any arrhythmias or changes in your EKG - tht would show if there is any damage in your heart muscle or if your heart behaves abnormally when put under stress.
  8. when my POTS symptoms are acting up it is usually causing high adrenaline levels ( I have hyperPOTS ) and I do not sleep well at all. I wake up every 3 hours nd can't fall back to sleep. But when I am well I sleep like a baby!!!!!
  9. @bombsh3ll - this was in the UAE - United Arab Emirates. And I assume that she will have major dysautonomic issues once being able to be upright again, yet I hope this will be temporary.
  10. Kim - that is so weird!!! I never heard of anything like that! Have they found anything auto-immune with you?
  11. @jklass44 a nuclear stress test is a regular stress test. The nuclear part is when before nd after the exercise part you have to lie under an xray machine that is able to take images of the vascular system of the heart. This is done with any stress test. An angiogram is a completely different procedure that has to be done in an operating room under sterile conditions because they insert a catheter in your wrist or groin that gets threaded directly into the heart. This procedure also provides imaging but it is much more complicated than a stress test. Yes - when I had my heart cath the coronary blood vessels spasmed - that is how they diagnosed this condition. It was seen in the imaging portion and also was noticed manually while advancing the catheter into the coronary vessels.
  12. Description, Physiology & Onset Hyperadrenergic POTS is a subtype of POTS that affects about 10% of patients with dysautonomia symptoms due to orthostatic intolerance. (Grubb et al, 2011) The mechanism differs from other types in so far as it is caused by centrally driven sympathetic activation. In other words, symptoms are caused directly from an ANS malfunction, rather than the ANS malfunction being a response to another cause. This results in patients having increased norepinephrine (adrenaline) in circulation and a rise in systolic blood pressure upon standing. Two additional characterizations of hyperPOTS go hand-in-hand - hypovolemia and the reduction in the activity of the enzyme renin and aldosterone. When a person with hyperPOTS is upright, there is a loss of plasma blood volume into the surrounding tissue (hypovolemia). In people without hyperPOTS, there is a normal reduction in urinary sodium levels when upright. This mechanism doesn't happen effectively in a person with hyperPOTS and this contributes to the severity of the reduced blood volume upon standing. In addition, the plasma enzyme renin plays a major role in the regulation of blood pressure, thirst, and production of urine. When standing, the activity of renin and aldosterone is greatly reduced in a person with hyperPOTS. The third major characteristic is the elevated norepinephrine and epinephrine levels in a person with hyperPOTS. Adrenaline is a neurotransmitter, a substance communicating within the nervous system and it is active in the synapse, the junction between nerves. When present, it causes activation of the sympathetic nervous system, causing an increase in HR and/or BP, commonly known as the “fight-or-flight response” which causes excitement, tremors, etc. The increase of norepinephrine can be activated by different mechanisms, the ANS produces too much adrenaline ( centrally mediated hyperadrenergic activation ), the excess adrenaline does not get cleaned out of the synapse once no longer needed ( Norepinephrine Transporter Deficiency ) or autoimmune antibodies against cholinesterase receptors. (Vanderbilt) The onset of hyperadrenergic POTS is largely the same as other forms of POTS, with the onset of symptoms following precipitating events such as viral infection, pregnancy or trauma, including surgery. Another cause found in hyperadrenergic POTS is MCAS ( mast cell activation syndrome ). In this case, the circulating vasodilator produces reflex sympathetic activation which causes symptoms like flushing and orthostatic intolerance ( the inability to compensate for the upright posture ). (Vanderbilt) Diagnosis The criteria for diagnosis shares many factors with POTS; including the presence of symptoms for 6 months or longer, a Head-Up Tilt Table Test (HUTT) shows tachycardia of 30 BPM or above 120 BPM in the presence of orthostatic intolerance within the first 10 minutes of upright posture. Patients are diagnosed with the hyperadrenergic form of POTS based on an increase in their SBP ( the higher number ) of at least 10 mmHg upon standing or during the HUTT with concomitant tachycardia or serum norepinephrine levels of above 600 pg/ml when upright. (Grubb, et al, 2011) Symptoms The symptoms of hyperadrenergic POTS are often shared with other types of POTS but also can be specific to this type of POTS: anxiety, tremors, orthostatic hypertension, and cold hands and feet being specific to this type. Other symptoms include fatigue, palpitations, dizziness and presyncope, syncope, excessive sweating, nausea/ diarrhea/ bloating, excessive stomach acid, increased urine output upon standing. Similar symptoms can be caused by pheochromocytoma ( a benign tumor on the adrenal gland ), so the presence of this must be ruled out before the diagnosis can be made. (Grubb et al, 2011) Treatment In addition to increased fluid intake and compression garments, it can be helpful to increase salt intake, but caution is needed when hypertension is present. Twenty (20) minutes of mild aerobic exercise ( in fresh air when possible ) 3 times a week has been proven effective. A fine balance of activity and rest periods can prevent hyperadrenergic symptoms and can promote healthy sleep patterns.(Grubb et al, 2011) There are many medications that have been effective in symptom improvement, however, there are no FDA approved drugs for the treatment of this type of POTS. The treatment is highly individual, which means some meds will help one patient but not the other. This can create a frustrating process of trial-and-error but often will lead to the discovery of the right combination. Some of the medications that have been found helpful are: Adderall, Ritalin Florinef Clonidine Beta-blockers (especially the combination of Carvelidol and Labetaiol) Midodrine SSRI/SNRI Modafinil Methyldopa One of the more significant findings in the treatment of hyperPOTS is the general observation that centrally acting sympatholytics (Clonidine, Methyldopa & others) and beta-blockers seem to work better to manage symptoms in people with hyperPOTS than patients with neuropathic POTS. (Grubb, et.al) Prognosis Hyperadrenergic POTS is often chronic and can be progressive. Some patients are disabled and unable to work while others are able to function with limitations. It has been shown that treatment is challenging since often the symptoms change or increase over time and medications may need to be adjusted or changed. It is important to note that most research into POTS and subgroups of POTS recognize the inherent problems associated with trying to narrow down the specific subtype. One of the most difficult problems is that the abnormalities seen in different subtypes are not mutually exclusive from other abnormalities. For example, a person with the norepinephrine levels indicative of hyperPOTS may also have QSART levels pointing to neuropathic POTS. Therefore, most physicians specializing in the treatment of POTS disorders focus on the specific abnormal findings instead of focusing on categorizing the subtype. (Vanderbilt) (Grubb) Have a question for our Medical Advisors? Please submit your question to webmaster@dinet.org Resources: Blair P. Grubb, Khalil Kanjwal, Bilal Saeed, Beverly Karabin, Yousuf Kanjwal Clinical presentation and management of patients with hyperadrenergic postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. A single center experience, Cardiology Journal, 2011, Vol 18 No. 5 https://journals.viamedica.pl/cardiology_journal/article/view/21202/16806 Vanderbilt University Autonomic Dysfunction Center Italo Biaggioni, David Robertson, Cyndya Shibao, Amanda Peltier, and additional faculty members, et al. Hyperadrenergic Subgroup and POTS subtype: Does it really matter?https://ww2.mc.vanderbilt.edu/adc/38938
  13. Dear @Heart4paws - unfortunately POTS symptoms tend to wax and wane and even can change or worsen over time. I have had POTS for 10 years and have been on meds since the beginning. I have found that my symptoms get worse over time and I need to increase or change/ add meds. I am currently on 6 daily meds for my POTS symptoms and this combination has developed over years. I see an autonomic specialist in another state and need to drive 8 hours to see him. He changes my meds whenever the symptoms get worse again. There is a list of physicians that treat dysautonomia patients under the physician section on this site. Most states do not have any specialists, so most patients have to travel quite a bit, but it is worth it. Unfortunately many of these specialists have waiting lists so I would check who would be an acceptable distance for you and ask your PCP to refer you as soon as possible ( if your insurance requires a referral ). Regarding the PVC's - my specialist told me that PVC's are a sign that the ANS is unbalanced - he called it my built-in alarm system. Although they are harmless I do take them serious since they frequently appear when I am experiencing a flare of POTS ( can be triggered by illness, over-doing things, stress, heat etc …) In the past increasing or changing beta blockers has helped at times. Compression stockings also can be helpful.
  14. @jklass44 - a stress test is non-invasive, it is done to put the heart under stress ( exercise or stimulating medications which make the heart beat really fast ) and then monitor the EKG during this time. If there was an area of damaged heart muscle from heart attack or any arrhythmias it will show up during the EKG. Before and afterwards they scan the heart ( like an xray ) after injecting dye that shows the coronary blood vessels. This would show any blockages or changes that occurred during the exercise or induced stress. An angiogram is an invasive procedure where they insert a catheter through the groin or into the wrist that threads directly into the blood vessels of the heart. This would also show any blockage or other conditions that affect the coronary arteries and also allows them in some cases to insert stents into the vessels that are blocked. However - this procedure can have serious risks ( it is a direct invasion into the heart itself and can cause bleeding, arrhythmias, clots and other complications that CAN cause death ). Usually the stress test is the first step and in most cases is sufficient for diagnosis or ruling out any issues. If the stress test is positive and shows a blockage or heart attack they usually do the heart cath ( or even a bypass if indicated ) at that time.
  15. Hi @Derek1987 - I used to get low temps of about 99.4 or so when my POTS was bad. Also feel like fevered when bad, with aches and hot eyes etc. My PCP never was able to figure this out, I am not sure if this is typical for POTS. I do know that low grade temps can be a sign of auto-immune conditions ( which can be a cause of POTS ) or of chronic inflammation or infection. In my case my urologist feels it COULD be because I have ICS, a chronic inflammatory condition of the bladder, which is caused by POTS in my case.
  16. Hi @WinterSown - yes, I too had three of those stress tests in my 10 years of POTS. the first one - exercise stress test - I failed due to passing out. The second was done with medicine and I did OK. The third we TRIED the treadmill but I could not tolerate it so they went back to doing the chemical one. I passed them all because they did not show a blockage but I did not do good with the exercise. I hope yours will be good news!!!!!
  17. @Trying - in my case the brain sensation appears when my blood vessels constrict nd reduce flow to the brain. If I lie down sometimes the vessels relax some and the heart beats faster to get the blood to the brain. If I do not lie down - in my case - the blood vessels end up so tight that there is no more circulation possible and I either pass out or take a seizure. I am not sure if this is what is going on with Jennifer but it could be the same mechanism. I know you said that she has low blood volume - that can cause this excessive sympathetic overcompensation with the vasoconstriction. Also blood pooling can trigger it as well. If tht is the case she might have hyperadrenergic POTS, but there are so many mechanisms that she would have to be evaluated by a specialist. Are you still hoping to see Dr Grubb?
  18. Yes - it is possible if the ANS is able to compensate.
  19. This is funny that you mention this! When I used to get horrible palpitations, bigeminy, trigeminy, couplets, triplets etc … would get really bad chest pains. I told my doctor that this was probably because the heart muscle got such a "work-out". He claimed that the heart does not work that way, but I always felt my heart ache after and during these episodes. And today these severe palpitations and ectopic beats have improved greatly with proper medication.
  20. Dear @jamie0410 - I am sorry to hear you are doing bad again. Yes - I definitely have had flares of POTS when introducing a new med. Dysautonomia sufferers are generally extremely sensitive to meds and often have to start a new med on the lowest available dose until you can see if you tolerate it. My specialist often ordered new meds in a pediatric dose or even half of that and then increased based on my tolerance. I am not familiar with Ocrevus but I read that it is a powerful drug that can affect your immune system and other side effects. This can put enormous stress on your body and therefore trigger a flare up of your POTS symptoms, as any med potentially can. If you have a physician following your POTS I would ask him if it is safe to continue the drug or if maybe you need to adjust your other meds to help with the POTS. In my case I always ask my POTS specialist if it is safe to start a new drug and he usually tells me what I may expect or what dose he recommends. I ask any docs to check with him prior to starting a new drug. As with any drug - your physician needs to determine if the risks outweigh the benefits. If it helps your MS but makes POTS worse - hard to say what to do! However - synopal episodes are serious - as you mentioned after hitting your head. Please check with your prescribing physician(s) - they needs to be aware of your reaction to this med. Be well!!!!!!
  21. @outofadream - what has helped me at times to avoid syncope is crossing my legs, sliding my back down a wall or sitting on my heels. This has helped if I do it immediately when presyncope appears. Also chugging down cold water.
  22. @MeganMN - venous pooling IS a type of cerebral hypoperfusion - the blood goes "south" and not into the brain, because the blood vessels cannot establish the blood pressure needed to pump the blood back up to the brain. Vasoconstriction is another mechanism but has the same effect - not enough perfusion in the brain. No - My doc and I have considered long-term effects of the hypo-perfusion ( since my seizures would cause between 15 - 45 seconds of severe hypoperfusion. And no - there are no known long term effects. I was evaluated by a neuro-psychologist twice ( 3 hours each ) to determine if the seizures or the general hypo-perfusion as well as the concussions obtained during falls could have contributed to my ongoing issues with forgetfulness, ADD, brain fog, wordfinding difficulties and short-term memory loss. In my case there was no proof of any damage ( even after two brain MRI's ).
  23. @MeganMN - yes, I have this frequently when I overdo things. It is part of brain fog and is - so I have read - caused by decreased circulation to the brain. In my case that must be true - when I wake up after seizures from sudden vasoconstriction I cannot speak anything understandable - I cannot pronounce words or even find the ones I want to say. This lasts for about 30 minutes. Today I barely take seizures anymore ( thank god and IV fluids!!!! ) but I still get the wordfinding problems and slurred speech when I have been too active. Lying down and resting helps. --- Have you checked your HR and BP when you get like that? --- It also can be a sign of poor attention ( which is common in POTS ). I take Ritalin to help with fatigue and brain fog and it has been very effective for me.
  24. Personally - I think it's a hoax. I tried Hawthorne and other supplements that supposedly stabilize the ANS but none of that worked for me in the least. I believe IF it does anything it might support a NORMAL ANS - but not ours!!!!!!
  25. @aelizabeth3300 - I had all the same testing done at a major autonomic clinic here in the US, within the first year of onset of my worst symptoms. They tols me that my testing came back normal. However - the clinic had me seen by an intern and the neurologist that was an call for the autonomic clinic that day had nothing to say. I was diagnosed based on symptoms. TTT x 2 and neurotransmitter testing by another autonomic specialist in another facility a year later. I was told that autonomic testing is not always correct - it depends on your autonomic tome that day ( I was asymptomatic during testing )
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