RichGotsPots Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Is it a Vasovagal problem if when I inhale my heart rate goes up as much as 10 beats/min and then when I exhale it goes back down 10 beats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattgreen Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 For what it's worth taking a deep breath always makes me dizzier. Also yawning, sneezing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misstraci Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 YES.... yawning, stretching, breathing deep, sneexing, blowing my nose.... all these things make my heart race. I just noticed this weekend that when I blew my nose, it felt like I had just ran around the block. I was a bit concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brethor9 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 me too! I get dizzy just from drinking a glass of water lol.......I have always assumed it is a vagal response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsquirrel Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 An increase in heart rate upon inhalation and decrease in heart rate upon exhalation is known as a respiratory sinus arrythmia and is completley normal. It is actually a sign that your cardiovagal reflex is functioning normally. If you ever had formal autonomic testing and you had to take a series of slow deep breaths, this is what they were testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katybug Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Yes to all that flyingsquirrel said. My POTS neuro has specifically talked to me about making sure I do not allow my breathing to increase when I start feeling pre-syncopal because it will actually make the tachy worse and becomes a vicious cycle. He said people starting to hyperventilate during pre-syncopal episodes often is the thing that pushes them over the edge and makes them pass out. I told him I do practice meditative breathing when I have pre-syncopal episodes and he said that was great. He quoted a study from a couple of years ago that showed that patients with congestive heart failure were able to stop the progression of and in some cases reverse the damage done to the heart by using meditative breathing. They hypothesized that this was due to reducing the strain on the heart muscle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libby Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sorry to barge into this thread like this, but I'm so excited that you brought this up. I've been looking for information on this for years, but I can't find anything to really tell me what it means. My respiratory sinus arrhythmia is reversed. My heart slows down when I inhale and speeds up when I exhale; I remember one of my docs telling me that when I was 14. He was kind of surprised no one had mentioned it to me before and when I started to pay attention to it, so was I. It's really, really obvious. So, anyone have any info on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogini Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 II get that from rolling over in bed, swallowing and other basic things. Mine is IST - inappropriate sinus tachycardia excessive increas in HR with movement. Not sure it's vasovagal, though it is autonomic. 10 bpm sounds minor especially if it comes back down when you exhale. Mine is more like 30 bpm, but since it settles back down I was told not to be concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogini Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Just saw flying squirrels response and it sounds right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaJoy Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hi, everyone. I do this, as well. Yogini, you said you get this from rolling over in bed. I do, as well, and then I get all sorts of symptoms, namely a feeling of heat and sweating. Does anyone else sweat and get a feeling of heat just from rolling over, and possibly have all these other symptoms, too?Lindajoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogini Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sometimes I do start to feel sick just from rolling over - that is on my worst days. Usually, it's just an increase in HR. I actually don't even measure my HR anymore, but I wore an Polar monitor every day for a couple of years and had this symptom. It is a very scary thing to notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichGotsPots Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Okay, someone told me on facebook, its called a respiratory sinus arrhythmia and its natural and better the more it does up and down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinnyC Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 What does an abnormal heart rate response to deep breathing mean? That your heart rate goes down? Or that it doesn't move much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hi all,a cardiologist I saw told me this is absolutely normal, particularly for young(er) people. Our hr is supposed to fluctuate slightly while breathing, yawning, swallowing etc.I don't know what the correct medical terminology is, but I've been told it is completely normal.Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerla Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 An increase in heart rate upon inhalation and decrease in heart rate upon exhalation is known as a respiratory sinus arrythmia and is completley normal. It is actually a sign that your cardiovagal reflex is functioning normally. If you ever had formal autonomic testing and you had to take a series of slow deep breaths, this is what they were testing.Thanks! I've always wondered why they had me do that during my TTT at Mayo... Now I know! I guess my body responded correctly, just a little overactive, because the woman doing the test said "My your days must suck." while watching my hr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsquirrel Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 What does an abnormal heart rate response to deep breathing mean? That your heart rate goes down? Or that it doesn't move much? A depressed/absent cardiovagal reflex would mean that your heart rate does not change (much) with deep breathing. This can be present if the parasympathetic side of your autonomic nervous system is depressed. This is one of the problems I have (parasympathetic depression) and I always had minimial heart rate variability. Since I have started taking pyridostigmine (a parasympathomimetic), my heart rate variability has increased tremendously and I have actually developed a healthy respiratory sinus arrythmia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinnyC Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Thanks for answering my question flyingsquirrel. My deep breathing response was abnormal and when I asked about it I thought they said my hr went up. So seeing that an increase in rate was normal had me really confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Soskis Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 LindaJoy...how timely! I wondered if I were the only one in the world that was having "hot flashes" when I turned over in bed! This just started recently and it happens even when I shift positions in my recliner. Any suggestions? - it's just getting worse and worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k&ajsmom Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I enjoyed reading this thread. I am familiar with the heart rate variablity being a healthy thing, mine is excessive, 30 bpm increase or more sometimes, and other times is at an appropriate level. My nurse in the er a while back, looked at me funny from moving my arm from over my head to my side, and in response my hr jumped from 90 to 130. I am correct to assume that this is possiably sympathetic overdrive causing this. I also have a qeustion that seems to related to hrv that is quite irritating. When I stimulate the hrv sometimes (not always) it seems to also increase the force of caridac output. Meaning, if I sneeze or have a coughing fit, sometimes my heart rate increases and I feel forceful beats, when this occurs it takes quite a long time to not "feel" my heart pounding even if the rate has returned to normal, at these times I will get several pvc's. Then there are times hrv increases with stimulation and does not feel forceful at all just quick. Is this at all related to the same mechanism or just another factor possiably involved? I also notice sometimes hrv and force are directly related and worsened by have a full stomach, even a small meal. Thanks for any feedback you can give, just trying to learn lol =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelloz Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 So nice to hear a few others have the hot flash/ heat thing....usually no sweating for me, just blazing heat when turning over, waking up, and a few seconds after I first lay down. It's like my body can't handle the smallest changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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