davecom Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Research from Cleveland Clinichttp://ftp.benthamscience.com/open/tocmj/articles/V007/36TOCMJ.pdfWhat I found very interesting was that the faster you "achieve POTS" the more likely you are to have a faster recovery time back to a normal heart rate upon sitting down. They speculate in the discussion that this indicates your POTS is likely centrally mitigated (as opposed to peripheral vasculature). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzysillyak Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Data was analyzed from a prospectively collected registry-database in a study approved by the Institutional ReviewBoard. Subjects who presented to the Cleveland Clinic fromJanuary to December 2007 for evaluation of symptoms oforthostatic intolerance and subsequently diagnosed withPOTS on head-up Tilt test in the Syncope Clinic were included.No differentiation was made between primary orsecondary POTS; patients may have had orthostatic intoleranceas the lone medical problem or in conjunction withother potential causes of autonomic dysfunction such as diabetes.It is standard practice in our Syncope center to notstop the patient’s medications prior to Tilt in order to obtain“real world” diagnostic information and to avoid problemswith medication discontinuation especially if they are indicatedfor other diseases (e.g. angiotensin converting enzymeinhibitorsand beta-blockers for coronary artery disease). Nodifferentiation was made between ‘Early’ versus ‘Late’POTS [3]; the HR increase by 30 bpm or to 120 bpm mayhave occurred within 10 min (Early) or after 10 min (Late) ofTilt.Since, in our experience, the response of blood pressureto tilt in POTS patients varies (e.g. no change, drop in systolicand/or diastolic pressure), patients with orthostatic hypotensionduring Tilt were included; however, patients witha vasovagal response were excluded. Patients with pacemakers,significant artifact or arrhythmias on ECG monitoring,missing data or discrepant data (1 patient) were excluded. I have a left bundle branch block so I would've been excluded. I really need to get this looked at further ... tx for the article. DPS. I know from using a BP and HR monitor at home that it takes my body an hour to fully recover from hypoperfusion. My hr goes from the mid 70s to the mid 60s in the last 15 minutes of being supine and I finally start feeling healthy again. If I get up too soon, my hr jumps right back up to my POTS rate within the first minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlady Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 This is interesting! I definitely fit this criteria. By the time they got to 70 degree tilt at CC, my HR was already 119 and I met the criteria for POTS. At the end of the 45 minutes, my HR was 150. The moment they laid me back down, the first minute of recovery, my HR was instantly 75.I don't agree at all that if you return to normal while sitting you have a better prognosis or quality of life. I've had POTS since at least age 16 (probably as early as age 9) and I've only gotten worse with time. (I'm now 29). If your HR is instantly at 150 when you stand, then how do they come up with this idea that you have a better quality of life... It makes no sense to me. Even though my heart calms down instantly, I still feel shaky, have heat intolerance and if I overdo it too much, then the big crash comes where I have to sleep it off.This study further pushes the idea that if your vitals are normal that POTS is essentially "turned off", which we all know is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecom Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Great point, Dana. Where does this leave us in terms of treatments? Does a centrally acting agent like clonodine/beta blockers therefore make more sense for us than vasoconstricting peripherally with something like midodrine if our recovery time and startup time is fairly instant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlady Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm surprised more people haven't posted to be honest. I haven't found any results with Florinef, midodrine, increasing salt intake and even saline IV's. Beta blockers just chill the heart out, but none of the other orthostatic symptoms and nothing gets rid of heat intolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margiebee Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I can say that in my experience, my heart rate recovers quicker after exercise now than when I first started exercising. I believe that this affect holds true for when I experience tachycardia in general now, and I can notice a difference. I feel slightly better now, at least tachycardia-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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