MikeO Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Well decided to start testing various food effects on my blood glucose after having yet another frustrating encounter with a medical professional. Last week my CGM data was gone over with me (yes i am diabetic) but when i brought up when i should test after eating that's were the conversation suddenly went fuzzy. The trainer just cited the 2hr mark which is just fine (for some foods) but my numbers clearly spiked at the 1hr mark and depending what i ate will stay high or crash by the 90 minute mark. I did comment as to what is really being tested, finding my best numbers at all times or avoiding the damaging high spikes. (298) by no means is low or normal for a nondiabetic. The subject then changed to eating healthy and the trainer cited oatmeal as a healthy food, Haha i then pointed out that i went from 310 in 1hr down to 65 at the 90 minute mark. So for now my plan is to get aggressive with testing foods to find what works for me and does not. I did pickup testing supplies at the local big store super center. Prices are a fraction of the cost and the BGM readings are right in line with my expensive insurance paid BGM. This mornings test was: two pieces of white bread toasted buttered (25 carbs) and two hard boiled eggs. 1hr mark was 156 and the 90 min mark was 145. this one will work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Well still trying to figure out how to track some of this. Today so far i did eat 2 pieces of toast with peanut butter. Results are: fasting reading just out of bed: 109 at breakfast: 114 45 mins later: 133 3 hrs later: 133 I will take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tee Posted January 3, 2023 Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 Was the trainer referring to GI (glycemic index) in labelling oatmeal as a healthy food? I'm not an expert in this area, but I recently watched a program about this subject in which an expert (probably an endocrinologist) pointed out that diabetics need to be looking at their total carbohydrate intake, and that GI being high or low was irrelevant in that particular calculation. Glad to hear peanut butter and toast worked out. That is my breakfast of choice! And it may be a coincidence but porridge for breakfast seems to worsen my symptoms, which is sad because I am part Scottish. (I can eat it later in the day with no trouble.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Sarah Tee said: Was the trainer referring to GI (glycemic index) in labelling oatmeal as a healthy food? The trainer just pointed out that oatmeal was healthy and i am sure it is but just not for my glucose levels. Some of the other foods we discussed (snack wise) did not make sense as well like having a handful of grapes will spike my blood sugar as well. What does work is getting the right meal combo or snack that works for me. I am sure peanut butter will be my go to food. Here is this mornings breakfast test. 1.5 cups of hash browns, two scrambled eggs wrapped in a spring roll wrapper and a tablespoon of 50% reduced sugar ketchup (36 carbs total) Starting reading: 104 1 Hr reading: 187 This combo is not so good as i did go over goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2023 well did the snack test. Consisted of a few triscuits with peanut butter and a few saltines with cheese. The cheese and crackers i was told not to do. I disagree. Total carbs was 25 Snack reading was: 112 1 hr later: 114 Wonder why the cheese and saltines are the first to go out of the panrty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Well this mornings test. 3 cups of coffee sweetened with organic honey (2 tablespoons) 34 Carbs. Fasting reading: 109 30 min reading: 214 1hr reading: 214 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2023 Well bit more testing. McDonalds is not the food to eat. This did give me problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Ate chinese food for Lunch yesterday (beef and broccoli and rice). Not so good numbers. a BGV of 139 points. Lunch start: 90 3 hrs later: 229 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 well here we go ate a fish sandwich and fries. sure this does not work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 Well confirmed eating too many carbs is not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2023 Ate a meal of boneless chicken, cauliflower and boxed mashed potatoes. start: bg 107 2-1/2hr: bg 260 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 Here is the results from eating some beef with broccoli and a bit of rice. was really hoping that my diabetes wasn't real then poof back down to reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking_for_light Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 So interesting on this topic - Plant-Based Diet for Diabetes: What About Carbs? - Center for Nutrition Studies An excerpt - Plant-based dietary patterns are associated with increased insulin sensitivity, not higher blood sugar.[1] This means the body is able to move sugar out of the blood and into cells more efficiently, where it’s used to make energy.[2] Also, the fiber in whole plant foods slows the release of sugar as food is metabolized, preventing the blood sugar spikes associated with low-fiber refined carbohydrates. Overweight and obese individuals who adopt whole food, plant-based diets can also benefit from losing excess weight, which in turn increases insulin sensitivity. Keeping insulin at reasonable levels regulates hunger by allowing leptin, the satiety hormone, to trigger feelings of fullness.[3] Combined with fiber’s satiating effects, this can prevent overeating and make it easier to maintain a healthy weight. Weight loss combined with plant-based eating patterns may also reduce the amount of fat stored in the liver[4]—an independent risk factor for type 2 diabetes.[5] These effects may be why carbohydrates from plant-based foods are usually shown to be protective against diabetes when compared to highly refined carbohydrates.[6] Really hope this helps. Sending very best wishes to you Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 Hi @Looking_for_lightsome of this works. Thanks for the best wishes. Food for now is not my friend. I can eat a meal that is fine then do it again and run into issues. One step at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking_for_light Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 So glad to be of help Mike. Sadly, the feeling of food not being a friend (spot on description) is one we know all too well (albeit not due to the same issue) with dreadful consequences. Will try to add more resources to help and for anyone else interested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking_for_light Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 Wow, just heard this about legumes and pulses - SO cool! They do a mighty job of helping with blood sugar control. If new to beans, build up slowly to allow the digestion to adjust. Well worth trying canned chickpeas, peas, lentils, aduki, black beans, flageolet etc in the hope they help. Some ideas - Mashed frozen green / tinned yellow split peas on toast, preferably wholemeal. Flageolet beans in leaf salad with olive oil (and cider vinegar if tolerated). Roasted chickpeas (just minimal oil and salt) are delish! If suited, dash of cider vinegar / lemon with them to aid digestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking_for_light Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 For anyone interested (likely of interest to @Macho319 too), these are all about all the positive effects - Second-meal effects of pulses on blood glucose and subjective appetite following a standardized meal 2 h later - PubMed (nih.gov) Whole Grains, Legumes, and the Subsequent Meal Effect: Implications for Blood Glucose Control and the Role of Fermentation - PMC (nih.gov) The Brilliant Bean - Plant-Based Life Foundation (pblife.org) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking_for_light Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 Both excellent sources of info - Vegetarian diet improves insulin resistance and oxidative stress markers more than conventional diet in subjects with Type 2 diabetes - PubMed (nih.gov) Plant-based diets for the prevention and treatment of type 2 diabetes - Plant Based Health Professionals UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 @Looking_for_lightThanks for the links. Good material to review. Still not sure if my ANS dysfunction drives some of my diabetes (pancreas works then doesn't) but i did have some good BG numbers on Sunday. I seem to be ok with Chicken and Broccoli (is a safe food for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macho319 Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 @Looking_for_lightThe interesting thing in my case is I deal with the opposite. I have non-diabetic reactive hypoglycemia. It usually happens after breakfast, but before lunch. Intermittent fasting has pretty much taken it away but maybe once every 3 months I’ll have an episode. My sugars are rarely high and I think they are on the lower end to be honest. I don’t go higher than 130 very often. I think it’s my liver doing it but the docs don’t agree, as usual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 General TSO's chicken with no rice. not the food for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 OMG @MikeO - WATCH OUT! That is way too high. I am worried about you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 7:08 PM, Pistol said: OMG @MikeO - WATCH OUT! That is way too high. I am worried about you! Yeah this is a bit scary. Sure this is why food was making me feel ill for so long. I do see my endo next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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