sheba Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 The doctor I saw today was the bomb he knows how to treat POTS and even taught me great counter manuevers. He knows just how people with POTS feel and showed me how to get my pressure up 10 points by pulling my fingers. To elaborate you use both hands with finger tips touching except the pinky fingers and pull with force as if your pulling them apart. Another move most know about is staying mobile and keeping the calves toned so tensing the calves while sitting and standing by lifting the heals works great. It was Gods grace that I found this guy, I was actually leaving the first Cardiologist very upset because it was my second trip to them and he advised me that the holter system was down and he could not hook it up to me. You think they would have had the sense to call me before I came all the way up there. So me and my attitude left the office, I happen to wonder off into another Cardiologist office and met my new best friend he was great and a great listener. Hope some of this helps...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvincent Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Thats great! He sounds like a great doctor It's too bad there are so few of them. Hope he's able to help you feel better Candace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthMother Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Whoo hoo! That is such good news.Can you explain to me again about the counter maneuver with the finger tips ... I don't know why I can't get the image in my mind. How did it go?Keep us posted on the tips and progress!~EM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheba Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 You put the rt hand inside the other with the finger tips touching like you pull something apart like pulling your locked finger tips apart. Your arms and elbows would be extended out the thumbs would be the only two fingers not touching each other sorry if I noted pinky fingers before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheba Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Thats great! He sounds like a great doctor It's too bad there are so few of them. Hope he's able to help you feel better CandaceThanks Candace!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia3 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 color me stupid...can you take a photo of the hands for this maneuverBut I also know toe raises help (do this while in line at grocery) The cardiologist that informed me of my ttt results shared that tidbit...but my ANS doc is my endocrinologist.Also squats (pretending to be interested in candy or magazines on lower shelves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthMother Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ok, I had my cell phone handy .... this is how I pictured it in my mind as you described it again. Pulling away from the center clasp of my fingers. Is this about right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw4790 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hi,I am glad that you were able to find someone that knows what they are talking about that was willing to work with you to give you useful advice. Sounds great! Did he have any other tidbits of information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthMother Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Or maybe it was just the fingers that were clasped?Ok ... I'll stop thinking about this now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia3 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 EarthmotherThanks for TOTALLY confusing me. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewatcher Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/jac/article/PIIS0735109702026839/fulltextHere's what and how.It looks like it is best for Vasovagal syncope and that few if any of the patients would "qualify" for a POTS dx. But hey, if it works who cares!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flop Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 The second of EarthMother's pictures is correct. You put your fingers so that they interlock (pads of fingertips touching each other) (as in the 2nd photo). You put your clasped hands in front of your chest with your elbows up and, basically you try to pull your hands apart whilst gripping with your fingers. This movement causes strong muscle contractions in the arms and this raises you BP slightly.Whilst the study that firewatcher linked to was just about vasovagal syncope, this movement will work in anyone who has low BP to boost the BP a little. My cardiologist taught me that exercise right after my TTT.I hope that people can understand how to do the exercise now?Flop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthMother Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I understand now!Thanks all!Sorry Soph! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsdmom Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 How long are you supposed to pull for? 5 seconds? 10? 30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momofsara Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 WHOOP-TE-DOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! so glad you found this wonderful doctor, now how about having him cloned, so you can share with the rest of the forum??????? LOL--- all kidding aside, I'm very happy for you, sounds like you have a keeper...... Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewatcher Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 How long are you supposed to pull for? 5 seconds? 10? 30?According to the study, "2 minutes or until syncope occurs" I am guessing until you can sit/lie down. Remember this was a study for Vasovagal syncope NOT for POTS hypotension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flop Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I keep pulling my hands whilst getting to a safe place as quickly as possible so I can sit down and put my head between my knees.Flop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia3 Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I don't do well stressing muscles on my arms...i am lucky to get thru two upper body machines at the YMCA. This is like a GIANT isometric exercise.Thanks for the clarification and the photos.Earthmother....you are forgiven. I think I am unconfused. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvincent Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Thats great! He sounds like a great doctor It's too bad there are so few of them. Hope he's able to help you feel better CandaceThanks Candace!!!!!Your welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanice Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I wish I knew who this doctor was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miajnt Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Can you tell us his name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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