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Is anyone else feeling nervous about the potential of this spreading?

I'm in Sydney, Australia, where we have now had several confirmed cases. 

A minor flu last year put me in hospital and severely exacerbated my Dysautonomia, so the thought of having a virus terrifies me because I'm fairly certain I'd not survive that. 

I'm so scared of it spreading and spreading. 

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@Scout - don't let the worry take ahold of you. I too get severely affected by viruses and certainly am cautious about getting sick. The only thing we can do to prevent us from getting sick ( including Corona virus ) is good and frequent handwashing, avoiding crowded places or travel and wearing a mask. Also - a healthy body fights viruses better, so living a generally healthy lifestyle with a good nutrition can be a powerful weapon. 

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I'm on immunosuppressants for an autoimmune disease, so I always have to be careful. My best friend just survived neutropenia and a white count of .5. Just be mindful of where you are. Send someone else to the store and especially the pharmacy or use mail order. Don't go to crowded places that aren't critical needs. Stay home. Wash your hands. Have everyone around you wash their hands. I carry Clorox wipes for places like hotels all the time. Use them on shopping carts too. You can't take away all risk, but you can minimize it.

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13 hours ago, Scout said:

Is anyone else feeling nervous about the potential of this spreading?

I'm in Sydney, Australia, where we have now had several confirmed cases. 

A minor flu last year put me in hospital and severely exacerbated my Dysautonomia, so the thought of having a virus terrifies me because I'm fairly certain I'd not survive that. 

I'm so scared of it spreading and spreading. 

Hi Scout,

Great suggestions. I'll just add that another patient told me that the mask needed for protection is N95. Please don't worry. If you follow the suggestions others have given you should be fine.

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@Pistol @KiminOrlando @Sushi

Thanks so much for your replies.

I'm really struggling with the anxiety from this.

We have more cases in the country, and they are in isolation which is good, but I can't help but stress about it a bit.

People keep saying "it only kills the elderly and the chronically ill", and, well — that's us, the chronically ill! 

Perhaps I will calm down in a couple of weeks if we don't have the cases keep climbing. I will take lots of precautions in the meantime. Unfortunately all hand sanitisers etc is sold out in the country. I have a small stash as backup, but it is all still rather scary. 

 

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I think it depends on what the chronic illness is, too. Someone who has chronic breathing difficulties or relies on oxygen or something like that would be far more vulnerable. POTS I am not sure, I have had genuine full on flu with POTS and coped just fine. Coronavirus isn't actually too much more deadly than any other flu. Remember the news does and will sensationalise things out of proportion. 

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@Scout - I agree with @FileTrekker. When you compare the range of people that have coronavirus in china to the rate of people who died from it - it is not that bad. The problem is that it spreads so fast b/c it is a new virus. IF you get it you would most likely be hospitalized and be in a safe place! --- Here is a recipe for homemade hand sanitizer: 

https://wellnessmama.com/281/homemade-hand-sanitizer/

Another tip: when amongst people wear gloves - this reminds you not to touch your face! And of course: wear a mask, that is still the best defense. 

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In New York there are a few confirmed cases,  but out of the millions of people here think it's probably unlikely that i'd run into someone that has it and you have to come into close contact to get it.

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14 hours ago, FileTrekker said:

I think it depends on what the chronic illness is, too. Someone who has chronic breathing difficulties or relies on oxygen or something like that would be far more vulnerable. POTS I am not sure, I have had genuine full on flu with POTS and coped just fine. Coronavirus isn't actually too much more deadly than any other flu. Remember the news does and will sensationalise things out of proportion. 

That's true, but they also don't tell us everything in the news, and the cases are said to be far worse.

The flu for some is nothing, but when I had the flu last year, I was hospitalised and had a severe episode with my POTS, which ended up making my health a lot worse.

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13 hours ago, Pistol said:

@Scout - I agree with @FileTrekker. When you compare the range of people that have coronavirus in china to the rate of people who died from it - it is not that bad. The problem is that it spreads so fast b/c it is a new virus. IF you get it you would most likely be hospitalized and be in a safe place! --- Here is a recipe for homemade hand sanitizer: 

https://wellnessmama.com/281/homemade-hand-sanitizer/

Another tip: when amongst people wear gloves - this reminds you not to touch your face! And of course: wear a mask, that is still the best defense. 

Thanks @Pistol :) I'll look up the homemade hand sanitiser.

@yogini Yep, it is unlikely, sure, but it also started as just a few cases in China, initially, then it spread very fast. So... I'm concerned. Hopefully things settle down.

I struggle with paranoia at the best of times, so this is just a bit difficult to cope with.

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It's mid-February as I'm writing this, but as of now, sitting in Florida, USA,  I'm ABSOLUTELY NOT worried.  In fact, I'm planning on going to Disney this weekend, no worries at all.   Would I be traveling to China right now?  No.  Asia?  Depends.  US/Europe/Oz?  Sure.  

Let's first do a little background on security.   First, two definitions:

1) Threat -- a person or thing that can cause damage or danger.  ex: a tornado hitting your house. 

2) Risk -- the probability that something undesirable will happen.  ex: You see thunderstorms in the area and tornadoes were reported from the same storm front earlier in the day. 

Some perspective is in order here.  People see threats everywhere...but humans are very poor judges of risk.  People obsessively worry about things like terrorist attacks and natural disasters, when reality says they're more likely to get injured/die from regular injuries in their own homes.   Many people get anxious about air travel and crashes, when the real danger is the drive to the airport.

BUT...to quote one of my professors who admitted that his research was  bull****, "There's no money in telling people that everything's fine."   That's true of both academia and the media... and business as well.  There's big money to be made off of fear.   

Back to the matter at hand: 

As of today (19 Feb), there's a 2.67% death rate of those infected. ~2,000 deaths world-wide.   Again, some perspective: 30,000 elderly people in the USA alone DIED from falls in 2016. The CDC says 14,000 people have died in the USA from the good 'ol regular season influenza we have every year. 186 pediatric patients died last year due to flu.  (For reference, there's been 135 people killed in US school shootings since 1764, the first recorded school shooting, which pre-dates the USA.)  For as much attention and $$$ school shootings get, we really would be better-off if we put the effort and $ into eliminating the flu.  

In the past 5 days, the number of new cases has been slowing down.  Too soon to say if it's peaked, but it's encouraging. If this trend continues for a week or so, I wouldn't be surprised if by June we don't hear about the Coronavirus at all.   Anyone remember SARS?  MERS? Swine Flu?  Bird flu?  

As always, keeping your hands clean (use real soap & water whenever possible -- the alcohol-based hand sanitizers don't work anywhere near as well in real life as they do on lab tests), avoid touching your eyes/mouth with your hands, etc.   

Enjoy life and don't sweat it!  Emotions can't be trusted when it comes to this.  

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