Anyone tried CBD oil/pills?

[DizzyPopcorn]

Anybody? In talking about the product without THC that doesnt stimulate. Did it help? 

Cbd / pot is legal in canada so was wondering if i shouldnt pick some up

[MTRJ75]

I've been using it since January of 2018. It seems to be doing more for me under the hood than anything on the surface that I can directly connect it to. Like, I've rarely ever taken and noticed a certain symptom I was feeling was improved or relieved. Or if it did help in that capacity, it wasn't for an extended period.  I think it helps with my blood pressure (as I learned again last night) and can sometimes feel like it temporarily takes an edge off. If I take it the same time as medications though, it seems to amplify the effects (not all of which I want) and can even knock me out (for some it makes them more alert). 

Two other things are that it's very difficult to figure out the right dosage for you. I still don't even know if I have that down. It's possible a person might need so much to make it in-affordable I guess (it's not cheap).  I have a disturbing feeling I may be one of those people whose optimal dose might take it out of my price range. 

Lastly, a lot of companies just don't make a quality product. It's hard to know what's going into your product. You don't want to spend $60-80 per bottle on junk. There are probably a few reputable people on the internet who can suggest something that's been tested and holds up. I'm lucky enough to know the familiy who produces mine personally. 

Oh, I take the oil, drops under the tongue by the way. Seems to be the fastest and most efficient delivery route. 

[Random-Symptom Man]

@DizzyPopcorn - I have tried CBD in both tablet and oil form.

Note: Before I continue, CBD and THC are illegal in many places. I checked that CBD is legal where I am at the city, county, state and federal levels. There are only 2 manufacturers in the US that make 100% pure CBD (and water). The rest have at least small amounts of THC. THC is currently illegal at the Federal level in the US.  Also, when I researched CBD for medical use, it appears that it isn't well regulated, and is often mixed with a variety of things, which may not be good for you.

When one of my doctors thought I had MCAS, she said that some patients get relief from CBD tablets. She mentioned a pretty pure brand here in Colorado, that her patients swore by. She was very careful to never suggest I take it, but skirted the line by saying how other patients had gotten some relief from CBD. It was later determined that I don't have MCAS, but I had already tried it.

I took dissolvable micro-dose tablets.  Those tablets were made by a reputable manufacturer, and were said to be dosed very precisely. I was told that drops were harder to get an exact dose for. Some drops are twice the size as the next. The effect of the CBD was temporary for me.  I felt numb and warm for a few hours. It was great for when I ached. It really took the edge off.

Sometimes, I also get pain where it feels like my leg or arm is on fire. I think it is nerve pain. I have a CBD and vegetable oil based cream that helps with this. It reduces the pain. These flareups last a few hours, and the numbness is a huge relief. I sometimes have to re-apply because it wears off after an hour to two hours. If I don't wear a glove, my hand will get a little numb too.

Both of my hands get achy/shaky/ridged/weak/numb - especially my dominant hand. Sometimes they cramp up too. I've tried the CBD cream on my hands for temporary relief.  They feel numb/warm for about an an hour and a half. The achy feeling goes away. It really helps the rigidness of my dominant hand. But then the symptoms return and it still feels numb for a while. So then my hand is practically useless. I pretty much only use the cream if I need to use my hands a lot or the pain/cramping is really bad. 

[DizzyPopcorn]

2 hours ago, Random-Symptom Man said:

@DizzyPopcorn - I have tried CBD in both tablet and oil form.

Note: Before I continue, CBD and THC are illegal in many places. I checked that CBD is legal where I am at the city, county, state and federal levels. There are only 2 manufacturers in the US that make 100% pure CBD (and water). The rest have at least small amounts of THC. THC is currently illegal at the Federal level in the US.  Also, when I researched CBD for medical use, it appears that it isn't well regulated

No worries, im in canada, where its legal for any dosage of thc and cbd at the federal level. Im also of legal age. 

Thank you for your experience with the substance 

[DizzyPopcorn]

2 hours ago, MTRJ75 said:

I've been using it since January of 2018. It seems to be doing more for me under the hood than anything on the surface that I can directly connect it to. Like, I've rarely ever taken and noticed a certain symptom I was feeling was improved or relieved. Or if it did help in that capacity, it wasn't for an extended period.  I think it helps with my blood pressure (as I learned again last night) and can sometimes feel like it temporarily takes an edge off. If I take it the same time as medications though, it seems to amplify the effects (not all of which I want) and can even knock me out (for some it makes them more alert). 

Two other things are that it's very difficult to figure out the right dosage for you. I still don't even know if I have that down. It's possible a person might need so much to make it in-affordable I guess (it's not cheap).  I have a disturbing feeling I may be one of those people whose optimal dose might take it out of my price range. 

Lastly, a lot of companies just don't make a quality product. It's hard to know what's going into your product. You don't want to spend $60-80 per bottle on junk. There are probably a few reputable people on the internet who can suggest something that's been tested and holds up. I'm lucky enough to know the familiy who produces mine personally. 

Oh, I take the oil, drops under the tongue by the way. Seems to be the fastest and most efficient delivery route. 

Thanks for the comment about your experience. 

You talk about the expensive side of it, but if its prescribed by a doctor, its free where i live. No matter the dosage

[MTRJ75]

Well that's pretty amazing and awesome. I'm assuming it's all regulated to ensure quality production then? If not, do they allow you to get the product from where ever you want? 

If it's going to be free too, why not look into whether or not THC would help too? My neuro is a medical cannabis doctor too, so this may be where we go next...if affordable. 

[DizzyPopcorn]

20 minutes ago, MTRJ75 said:

Well that's pretty amazing and awesome. I'm assuming it's all regulated to ensure quality production then? If not, do they allow you to get the product from where ever you want? 

If it's going to be free too, why not look into whether or not THC would help too? My neuro is a medical cannabis doctor too, so this may be where we go next...if affordable. 

Isnt THC a stimulant? I dont want to be stimulated as i think im hyper / have too much adrenaline. All i want is peace! So i thought i had to stick to cbd only. 

The products are regulated and available at all SQDCs (same dosage / brands) (Société Québécoise Du Canabis). You can even shop by % of thc or cbd

 

[MTRJ75]

I'm not sure, but I know people who use THC with great success as a sleep aid. Of course, your doctor would have a better answer than I would. The way it's been explained to me is that ideally it adapts to whatever the body needs at that point in time. 

Are you going to be able to experiment with dosages within that system or is that going to be dictated by a one size fits all approach and every bottle is expected to last the every person the same amount of time? 

[DizzyPopcorn]

6 minutes ago, MTRJ75 said:

I'm not sure, but I know people who use THC with great success as a sleep aid. Of course, your doctor would have a better answer than I would. The way it's been explained to me is that ideally it adapts to whatever the body needs at that point in time. 

Are you going to be able to experiment with dosages within that system or is that going to be dictated by a one size fits all approach and every bottle is expected to last the every person the same amount of time? 

The latter. Worst case i experiment under my own expenses first what works and then seek out a prescription from my doctor

Thank you for the information, really appreciated. 

[Sushi]

21 hours ago, MTRJ75 said:

I’m not sure, but I know people who use THC with great success as a sleep aid. Of course, your doctor would have a better answer than I would. The way it's been explained to me is that ideally it adapts to whatever the body needs at that point in time. 

The Indica strain of cannabis is calming for most—it is the Sativa strain that can be stimulating. I have a medical cannabis card so it is legal for me, and I find that a very small dose of Indica (THC) is the most effective treatment for acute post exertional symptoms. I take it as an edible (which allows precise dosing) or as a tincture. The type of symptoms it works best for (for me) are the “am I going to die?” type that I sometimes get after too much exertion. It also helps with sleep for me. 

[MTRJ75]

1 hour ago, Sushi said:

The Indica strain of cannabis is calming for most—it is the Sativa strain that can be stimulating. I have a medical cannabis card so it is legal for me, and I find that a very small dose of Indica (THC) is the most effective treatment for acute post exertional symptoms. I take it as an edible (which allows precise dosing) or as a tincture. The type of symptoms it works best for (for me) are the “am I going to die?” type that I sometimes get after too much exertion. It also helps with sleep for me. 

If there's something that helps that, then I need all of it. Been feeling this in some manner or other every day over the past week. Will have to ask my neuro. 

[DizzyPopcorn]

 “am I going to die?” types of feeling describe me 24/7

[Sushi]

20 hours ago, DizzyPopcorn said:

 “am I going to die?” types of feeling describe me 24/7

It is hard to describe clinically what this feels like. There is an empty feeling in the chest and just a lot of amorphous feelings (not psychological) of being in a critical physical state. The change is totally clear when it passes. Can anyone describe it better? In any case a small dose of Indica gets me out of it. A physician friend has the same experience and guesses that the THC calms the CNS.

[DizzyPopcorn]

Just now, Sushi said:

It is hard to describe clinically what this feels like. There is an empty feeling in the chest and just a lot of amorphous feelings (not psychological) of being in a critical physical state. The change is totally clear when it passes. Can anyone describe it better? In any case a small dose of Indica gets me out of it. A physician friend has the same experience and guesses that the THC calms the CNS.

The only thing scaring me away from trying cbd or thc right now is my clonazepalm that i was forced to take daily while waiting for my specialist. I just simply can't function without it atm and my anxiety is at an all time high.

[Sushi]

41 minutes ago, DizzyPopcorn said:

The only thing scaring me away from trying cbd or thc right now is my clonazepalm that i was forced to take daily while waiting for my specialist. I just simply can't function without it atm and my anxiety is at an all time high.

I also take a low dose of clonazepam for sleep and it doesn’t seem to interfere though I have been taking it for so long that I am probably habituated to it and don’t get the full effect.

[DizzyPopcorn]

7 minutes ago, Sushi said:

I also take a low dose of clonazepam for sleep and it doesn’t seem to interfere though I have been taking it for so long that I am probably habituated to it and don’t get the full effect.

 Makes sense. Thanks again for the info, i'll make sure to bring it to my doctor on my next appointment :).

[Guest ScottS]

I take CBD (daily) in tincture form sublingually before bed, after exercising and whenever I'm starting to feel like the gastroparesis I often have to deal with is getting out of control.

On 10/3/2019 at 12:43 PM, Sushi said:

There is an empty feeling in the chest and just a lot of amorphous feelings (not psychological) of being in a critical physical state. The change is totally clear when it passes.

Been there, experienced that. It's a godawful feeling. If I catch things quick enough - before they start to build up and get out of control - CBD can help there too.

Beyond that there's Ativan. (Which I hate and only take as an absolute last resort.)

[Derek1987]

I just ordered some for my wife for sleep and pain. She will test it out tonight. Im not allowed to post the website. But for people with a disability, low income, or a veteran, you get 60 percent off. I bought her a bottle of 50mg cbd capsules. 40 in the bottle. Regular price. $90. It only cost us $36 with the discount. Free shipping and no tax. You have to upload an award letter or a doctors note or some other document options. It says on the website what documents are acceptable. The brand is lazarus naturals. They sell tinctures, pills, creams and other stuff. 

 

Edit: please pm me if you would like to know where to order this from. 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Derek1987

[Guest ScottS]

12 hours ago, Derek1987 said:

I just ordered some for my wife for sleep and pain. She will test it out tonight. Im not allowed to post the website. But for people with a disability, low income, or a veteran, you get 60 percent off. I bought her a bottle of 50mg cbd capsules. 40 in the bottle. Regular price. $90. It only cost us $36 with the discount. Free shipping and no tax. You have to upload an award letter or a doctors note or some other document options. It says on the website what documents are acceptable. The brand is lazarus naturals. They sell tinctures, pills, creams and other stuff. 

Please see: https://medium.com/cbd-origin/what-is-cbd-bioavailability-and-why-does-it-matter-69d9a2e37e6c

I take CBD sublingually via flavorless tinctures. Prior to that I tried taking it orally via gummies, lozenges and capsules. Of the lot, only tinctures made any noticeable difference. 

Note: I also take the tinctures via the buccal route (where the tincture is applied between the gums and the inner lining of the cheek in the buccal pouch). Of the two methods, buccal is somewhat more effective than sublingual and sublingual is generally easier to do (not to mention more convenient, especially when on the go).

[Random-Symptom Man]

I just saw this post about someone’s CBD/THC experiences.

https://www.kristinarisola.com/blog/pots-dysautonomia-and-medical-cannabis