Pulsatile Tinnitus

[Goschi]

Hi, everybody!

Maybe this question might sound a bit strange - but the more time passes, the more I get the imagination that there could possibly be a connection to POTS:

For more than 3 years I have a so called "pulsatile tinnitus", meaning that I can hear my pulse "wooshing" in my left ear. 

Does anybody have this...? And could there be a possible connection to POTs

Thanks in advance for any replies!

 

 

[Katybug]

I have constant tinnitus, actually all my life. When my tachycardia gets bad, I'm short of breath, or am overheated, it becomes pulsating. I think it's fairly common with POTS.

[Goschi]

Thanky you so much for your reply , Katybug! I am very sorry to hear that you are affected with this too..

However, I am not so sure, if we actually have the same thing. I never had (and don't have now) "classical" tinnitus with "ringing" in the ears and the like.

I simply hear my pulse wooshing in my left ear - 24/7. The severity doesn't change with the Intensity of my Pots symptoms. Nevertheless, for me it feels somehow "connected".

And I read on the net, that pulsatile tinnitus ALWAYS has a physiological cause... 

[statesof]

I have experienced the ringing in ears type of tinnitus, and a few times the "wooshing" type, typically on more symptomatic days, but I associated it more with my migraines than POTS.

[yogini]

Yes, this is a pretty common symptom of POTS - both ringing in the ears and hearing and/or feeling your pulse.

[sue1234]

I have had tinnitus for about 20 years, and it preceded POTS.  Mine is not pulsatile.  You might want to read up on SCDS, or Superior Canal Dehiscence.  It is a small hole in the bone in the ear. One of its prominent symptoms is hearing your heart beat, along with other bodily noises, in your ear.  More than likely you don't have it as it is rare, but who knows.  At least you will be aware of one of the possibilities.  But, like others said, it could def be related to POTS.  But, being in one ear only makes me think not.

[yogini]

I also had ringing in the ear before POTS.  It can be caused by other things - like allergies.  But I started getting increased sounds in the ear with POTS - pulsing, ringing, crunchy noises. It can be in one ear for me or both.  I went to an ear dr at one point.  It probably doesn't hurt to do this to be safe.

[SGar]

I have POTS and have pulsatile tinnitus. I been trying to find out the cause. But the pulsatile tinnitus started a month after I was diagnosed with POTS so it may be related. All other test have been normal. I go for one more test this coming Tuesday. But so far the MRA, carotid doppler, CT scan of brain are all normal.

[Delta]

I get the "whooshing pulse" sound in my ears.  In fact, I'm getting it now. I'm guessing it's related to the POTS, because I don't recall hearing this before. I do recall hearing straight-out "whooshing" from the time I was little and if I was in a quiet place, but the pulsing is a new thing.

[Jwarrior77]

I have this as well. Sometimes I get it strongly in my right ear when standing up, and other times when I put my head in differnet positions such as looking down. It comes and goes for me and isn't constant. When I was younger I remember I would get it when laying down in my bed to go to sleep. Never thought much of it other than it being annoying. Now there is a correlation with it being associated with higher intercranial pressure and possibly CCSVI as a lot of people who have that also report pulsatile tinnitus. Funny enough many people who have POTS also have CCSVI and higher intercranial pressure - but of course not everyone does. 

[misseb]

Yes. I frequently get an ocean sound in one ear. And when I am reacting to food (I have MCAD) I actually get itchy inner ears and a high pitched loud ringing in both. 

[bunny]

I've had some form of tinnitus for as long as I can remember.   In my childhood it was an occasional high-pitch ringing and I'd get the pulsatile whooshing at times, usually when I'm not feeling well.  A few years back after taking vancomycin, the ringing became worse and constant in both ears, with my right ear being worse.  I now have the constant sound of a jet engine whine in that ear.   I still get the pulsatile when I'm not feeling good. 

[JFreeer]

Hello, 

I never had Tinnitus until I was diagnosed 3 months ago. It comes and goes. Usually seems to come in afternoon and stronger in the left ear. It sometimes comes at night with lying down in bed. I feel it probably correlates with my bp and my dysfunctional Nuerological autonomic system. I cannot correlate it with any certain signs or symptoms that comes with it. 

[KaciCrochets]

I have regular and pulsatile tinnitus. My pulsatile tinnitus has been worse lately, in fact I just stopped and paid attention and sure enough, I can hear it. I don't know if it's from the increased stress of the last couple of months or what. I read it could be due to abnormal or excessive movement of the small bones in the ear, which would make sense with EDS because those bones are held in place by connective tissue. 

[TigerLily]

I have this head wooshing. Especially when I bend over or turn my head to side in an extreme way. 

[Tink]

I have severe Small Fiber Neuropathy, and have had for 17 years. I've had some thudding in my ears on and off, especially when I detoxed off a narcotic in 2014 that lasted for approx 6-7 months and I did not sleep either due to the detox. I had severe tinnitus after coming off the medication, but it disappeared later on. I eventually had to go back on Fentanyl but had not tinnitus again to speak of, just intermittent thudding once in a while. My neurologist told me I had POTS but my main doctor, who knew me extremely well, said I did not have POTS. I do have some autonomic system issues but did not have severe Pulsatile Tinnitus with relentless pounding in my ears till last summer in 2020. Boom...it started all of a sudden and has not stopped. I have barely slept for most of this last year. I just started taking Baclofen, a muscle relaxer that causes me other issues so I don't like to take it, plus I am on Diazepam and my doctor had said the Diazepam was stronger than the MR so I just stuck with the Diazepam that didn't give me problems....but now taking cause it knocks back the tinnitus so I can sleep and function during the day. I really thought I was going to go insane with the severe pounding and my chest felt nervous, not really heart palps, just a nervous feeling. My neck was as tight as piano wire, and in severe pain, which was causing headaches and migraines, and I believe the tinnitus, but not proven. I have been a wreck with the no sleep, the pounding in my ears, headaches/migraines, neck pain, plus I tore my left rotator cuff, it appears, but my new doctor whom I haven't seen wouldn't do an MRI, only an X-ray, finally and that of course showed nothing. Last year was extremely stressful during the pandemic, I kicked the only friend who I had met 10 years ago, to the curb because she was abusive and I couldn't take it anymore with my mom dying of pancreatic cancer. Mom died just as the pandemic was kicking in and I haven't even seen where she is buried. She lived out of town and the few left on my family was vile. It was a horrible experience. I did the best I could but I was left beaten up physically and emotionally and it all didn't hit me till later on while sitting alone in the pandemic 24/7 for 15 months! Yes, it was hard, especially with being an ill person and already suffering depression. I know stress aggravates tinnitus but is not really the cause, though some sites say it can be???? I know that medication can cause tinnitus and I was having to take a lot of extra narcotics to enable me to stand on my feet to help my mother. ?? Could this be the cause later after I cut back to my normal dosage??? I was fine when I got home in February as the tinnitus didn't show up for months later. I lost my main and only good doctor the end of June and this was another big stressor but I also had my first Ketamine infusion the end of June before losing my good doctor. It didn't help my pain as the dosage was extremely low but during the infusion I had blurred VERY blurred vision, enhanced awareness of my spine and hip pain and was uncomfortable and could not stay still in the hospital bed. It was a month before the next infusion and the Ketamine was for the SFN disease and pain. This time was a nightmare and they ramped up the dosage extremely high though a anesthesiologist did not show up to calculate the dosage. A woman came down and I was told that she was a anesthesiologist NP.?? I thought weird as they have to be very careful with the dosage using Ketamine and I am a complex patient with a lot of weird reactions to things and I feel MCV was remiss in handling my care with the Ketamine. I just found out through my neurologist that the pain clinic did not even write down the dosage they gave me. It was way to high as I was literally blind, couldn't swallow a sip of water, was thrashing about in pain, as it heightened my awareness of my spine and hip pain again but to a much higher degree. I was miserable. I had a severe migraine, couldn't tolerate any light, had to cover my face and have the nurses close all the shades completely and turn out the lights. I couldn't feel my feet, felt like I couldn't breathe well, my mouth felt huge and so many other issues were happening. I had bad hallucinations and was crying. This infusion just didn't not go well and in the end made me feel extremely ill. No one checked on me since my good doctor had left MCV so I was on my own afterwards and home. I never went to sleep during either Ketamine infusion, which my podiatrist said should have happened. He sat on clinical trials in the past, I found out, and said I should have been relaxed and in a twilight type stage, and said most people sleep. I did not fall asleep during the Ketamine infusions and did not feel sleepy, peaceful or in twilight at all!! After the Ketamine was stopped and I was home I did fall asleep when I laid across my bed, but then I felt ill when I woke, both times, but after the 2nd infusion I stayed ill and felt extremely weak for weeks. I didn't feel right after the last infusion. This was the end of July and by August I felt manic as could be and my brain and chest felt wide open. I went to the river one day with my walker and saw a friend and I was loud, crying and just kind of crazy when I tried to talk to her. I was not normal at all. My chest and brain still felt wide open! I was manic and talking loud and didn't care who heard me. I just was off the rails. When I got home and took a shower I went down like a ton of bricks had hit me. I was ill, very ill and was having all kinds of issues. I thought maybe I had Covid as food tasted horrid, I wasn't breathing well, etc.....but I was tested and tested negative. I was dehydrated so got fluids and just was not well. It lasted for a few weeks but I never felt good again or back to normal. I hurt my neck during this time while trying to fix my dryer vent hose and my neck because so painful and tight that I could not lay it on my pillow....the pain and tightness has continued to present day, and I had had 4 car accidents/incidents earlier when my mom was dying and I had to drive. The worse was when I got rear-ended the day of her funeral but still I didn't have the tinnitus till after the dryer vent incident and then the Ketamine which all happened around the same time. I thought maybe I had some instability in my cervical as I had already had a fusion, or in my upper spine, that was causing the tinnitus. I didn't know but was miserable. I had told my new doctor but he ignored me. I then tore my rotator cuff and that has been adding to my neck pain. I told my new doctor but again, I was ignored and he didn't even make a clinical note in my file. I told my neurosurgeon and he wanted an MRI ordered by my new doctor wouldn't do it. I eventually saw his NP and was sent to Ortho and an X-ray which didn't show anything as RC tears of the shoulder need to be seen on an MRI. I was living in H___! My neurologist finally wanted to see an MRI of my neck but that was okay but still no one has done an MRI for this intense shoulder pain that presents as a RC tear. It aggravates my neck and my ears go crazy!! My neurologist said the Ketamine leaves your system within a short time after the infusion stops and that is true...but with the bad reactions I had I am going to call the NIH as it could have set something off to cause the tinnitus. I don't know this but gonna cover all bases. I really thought I was going to lose my mind and take my life between the severe tinnitus, no sleep and the pain with the crazy feeling in my chest also and feelin just crazy. I couldn't talk to people or my ears would close up and I felt like I was talking to loud and probably was as I couldn't hear well. I felt crazy and nervous but not like anxiety which my new doctor kept blaming everything on. It was all that was happening that was causing me to have all that anxiety. When I laughed I felt a rippled thru my chest or when I lifted my arm or ate my dinner and then my ears would start. it's been a wild, insane ride. I finally found a combo of meds that worked, just the last week, to knock out the tinnitus, the muscle relaxer, Baclofen, with more pain meds to allow me to sleep at night.......it took a long time to get an MRI to discern there was or was not a problem with my neck, and still my shoulder has not been addressed, the Ketamine blown off as an issue but he doesn't understand how bad that last infusion was....so what started this insane tinnitus? The SFN?? My neck pain, my shoulder causing more pain and making my neck worse? I do not know. Tinnitus can often be medication related and  some of my meds could be the cause but have never caused me an issue before!! So, who knows, but I do agree with my my main doctor that left. I don't really have POTS. They need to figure out the tinnitus and the cause and type. Just because I have SFN and they think autonomic disturbances, but can also be due to the meds I am on, at least some of it, does not mean POTS. I do not fit that profile with my problems. My BP is not low. It's been climbing higher and higher since last summer after the Ketamine! Beware of doctors hanging your problems on one thing and not really doing the tests or diagnostics to make sure you have what they are saying you have......do your research. I have been right too many times and the doctors wrong. I live in this body and keep track of what it does. Do the same daily on a simple chart. It helps give your doctors the information they need....if they will listen!! If anyone has anything to offer I would value your input. I do not want to live on more drugs. I am sick of drugs thought don't know how to navigate this horrid SFN disease. It causes me so many problems and when I detoxed, a year later, it was all me and my body...not the detox that was causing my issues. I know this is lengthy and a lot to digest but appreciate anything you might can add to help me, if you know about Ketamine, POTS or SFN that is not diabetic and is severe. Thank you!