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Cabbage Juice Is Helping Me With My Pots.

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cabbage juice is helping me with my pots.

i started juiceing 4 days ago and my standing heart rate is in the 60s and 70s now i test it with a omron upper Arm blood preeure monitor, and a polar heart rate monitor thay both cant be wrong.

my standing pulse pressure is no longer low and good, i dont feel dizzy i cant belive this.

i had gone gluten free 100% and that did help , but this is cureing me it seems.

its a full time job juiceing cabbage but its wroth it. i juice a full cabbge and drink as much as a can, then i add other things like carrots celery broccoli ginger to it.

i read about caddage juiceing on pubmed and that it my be a autoimmune regulator, but i have only been juiceing for 4 days now so i dont know if it can help with that so soon.

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can you explain where you buy the cabbage, what kind, how you juice it, and whether you mix other

things with it.

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sure , i buy the white cabbage its green on the outside but white on the inside from HEB are Kroger .

i use a omega 8000 juicer its what thay call a masticating juicer. it cost me $250 bucks. im sure a 60$ centrifugal juicer from walmart can work, but not as good as keeping the micronutrients safe.

I juice a full cabbage and drink about half of it right away, then i juice some carrots celery broccoli ginger and add in to the rest of the cabbage juice. i have added a little kale to.

if you look up juiceing cabbage on pubmed it says it my be a autoimmune regulator.

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Guest Alex

Sounds interesting and I'm happy to hear it helps you.

Would you mind sharing the pubmed articles you have read?

Thank you,

Alex

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17438919

cant find the other ones right now about cabbage juice for ulcers, but there out there if you look on google.

im trying to find out if its safe to drink tons of cabbage juice for ever, becuse i plan on doing just that.

i just got back from a 2 hr walk in the sun, im in texas and i feel like i did before i got sick.

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awesome Alan, thanks a lot.

I can tell you my grandfather cured his ulcer by consuming cabbage juice and raw potatoes for a couple of months.

Glad to hear you're doing great!

Alex

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im starting to like the way it taste, by adding things to it but wow it can be realy nasty with adding stuff.

when i got sick with pots about 16 mo ago, i ended up in the hospital thay did a ablation

on my heart, that i now feel my have been unnecessary. after words i was told it was my autonomic nervous system

so i had some test and told i have pots, and hashimoto's. so thay gave me 3 types of meds midodrine for otherstic hypotension, acebutolol for POTS and IST and Levothyroxin for hashimotos, i only take the Levothyroxin and not the other two meds becuse thay did not help.

im starting to think that the hashimotos was a wrong diagnosis, and that my high TSH was to do with my gut.

afater i gave up gluten 100% things started to trun around for me. be for i had to lay on mt side just to breathe

heart rates in the 180s standing up, head was hurting all the time back on head pain.

Well i started cabbage juiceing 5 days ago ,and right away my standing heart rate was down in the 60s and 70s.

i had had a lot of body twitching that got reduced to 97% once i started on the Levothyroxin but the twitching in my left cafe never did go away, but now after cabbage juiceing its about 90% gone.

im so happy i can cry. i realy did think i had MSA

reduced

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i use a heart rate monitor watch, with a chest strap so i can see what my hearts doing, plus i know im ok now, i can feel it no longer dazzy at all, not even a little. i even test my standing blood pressure, and its fine even my standing pulse pressure is fine.

im not 100% yet its going to take more time i need to get back in shap i was on my back for a long time.

i just got out of shower i took a long hot one, and before that made my heart rate realy high , its fine now. i feel like crying im so happy.

its the cabbage juice, and the gluten free has done it to, but the cabbage is realy doing it. im not going to die after all .

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Wow. That's awesome. I'm so happy for you. I decided to go gluten free several weeks ago and have felt better for it. I have been juicing a fruit and vegetable mixture for while but it doesn't have cabbage in it. I will have to try adding that as well. Thanks for the information and encouragement.

Janet

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Hey, whatever works! Congratulations, I join everyone else in being happy for you. Keep us posted on how you progress. Who is going to be next to try this?

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one clue i want to point out, to others about know if this my help with there pots is that when pots started with me, i started geting a type of surge just as i started to sleep at night, and it was very awful. if you have that surge like i did , id got out and buy a juicer are get a good one online soon, plus give up 100 and 20 % of gluten and sodas junk foods give it all up.

becuse the surge for me seems to be from the gut in some way, it feels like something elses but its the gut.

i just got back from walmart i had to go walk some more, i feel like im reborn.

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That is fantastic! To feel like you used to must be awesome. I'm to the point, whatever it is that makes us feel better is just awesome...even if it is cabbage juice! And I agree with the above poster, you will have us all drinking cabbage juice!

I went 100% gluten-free last fall, and my POTS got better by about 50-60%. I take ANY improvement gladly.

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Thanks for posting this. My son has tremors from waist down. I make a green drink at lunch time for my son and I. I will try adding some white cabbage to the drink and see if this helps.

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i had a standing tremor, in my right leg but only a few times after a walk when it was hot, i did have something going on in my tumb.

i realy hope your son gets over this. one other thing that did help me was takeing r-lipoic acid 300mg 2 times a day.

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Many months ago when he could walk, the tremor would also start after he started walking. I learned that this was called an orthostatic tremor. I found a web site called the National Tremor Association and learned about many different types of tremors. My son's tremor has a mind of it's own and since he had the flu in January, it has come back in full force. My son has not been able to stand or walk since January. The tremor starts out of the blue, after he starts to exercise, sometimes will stop after exercise. A month ago it decided to start after he wakes up and pretty much goes all day. I was glad to see the article you posted and will show this to his cardiologist. One week ago, some autoimmune blood work was ran so it will be no surprise if it comes back positive. I will look to see if I can find the other articles. Glad you have found something that has helped. I have the feeling more people on the forum will be juicing.

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Wonderful news.

I have been doing well with my POTS, but only when I keep running, as soon as I stop, the standing HR numbers rise drastically.

I do believe cabbage is one of the foods like Beet root juice that are high in nitrates and thus effects nitric oxide which dilates the blood vessels.

In the past I found countless articles on this, but with the beet root juice I got a sharp rebound effect the same day. I also can't really do juices well with Diabetes.

There is information on nitric oxide and POTS, CFS, Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, reductions due to Diabetes, relation to Melatonin, and antioxidants, and relation to BH4, which ties in with methylfolate and a lot of the new research on the genetics of this, and its affect on many illnesses. There are animal studies on NO and seasonal effects etc. I probably have a 100 article links. It is very complex and there are 3 types of enzymes affecting it in the body, and I do not remember most of it. People are doing a lot of research on it though, so if any one can put it together great. I also have this patent in my links for its effect on...

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1336602.html

Nitrate prodrugs able to release nitric oxide in a controlled and selective way and their use for prevention and treatment of inflammatory, ischemic and proliferative diseases

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0023643811003501

White cabbage fermentation improves ascorbigen content, antioxidant and nitric oxide production inhibitory activity in LPS-induced macrophages

http://www.leaflady.org/nitric.htm

Discusses NO and sources including cabbage.

Anyhow, glad it is working, via whatever mechanism, just thought some of this might stimulate someone's research on here, to help figure this out- Potluck

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cool thanks for the links,

im going to keep doing cabbage for the next 8 weeks, becuse of it being so good for the gut and then im goig to replace cabbage with something else to see if dose the same thing. cabbage it so yukky to julice omg

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I have a NutriBullet from Walmart. I bought some coleslaw from braums. It contains the green cabbage and carrots. In the small bullet cup, I put 1/4 cup of coleslaw, 1/2 orange, handful of fresh pineapple, 1/4 cup of blueberries, 1 teaspoon of stevia and filled with water to water line. You can't taste the cabbage juice flavor. So you might try adding fruit for a change. Are you drinking the juice of one whole cabbage a day? Cabbage has some excellent health benefits.

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a little bad news on the juiceing cabbage, i starting feeling dizzy the oher day, and its back today.

my standing BP is 126 over 70 thats high for me, and my HR is 68 standing . i was feeling so good now even with my heart rate lower standing im getig dizzy.

im hopeing its just some kind of timeing thing my body needs to get use to.

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Alan, sorry to hear about the increased blood pressure, but it is great you are keep us so up to date. It will help others know what to possibly expect should they find they are helped by trying out cabbage juice.

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