ramakentesh Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 Ive spoken to a number of POTSies that highly recommend this herbal treatment during adrenalin surges. Anyone have personal experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 I've recently gotten some. Not tried it yet. I do know that Lemon Balm as a tea, is helpful. Few drops in water - not too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewatcher Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 From the Chinese Materia Medica:Yi Mu Cao:-invigorate blood, regulate menses Lochioschesis (discharge post delivery)-induce urination, reduce swelling – xue lin syndrome-edemaAlso Used For:Orally, motherwort is used for cardiac symptoms of neurosis, cardiac insufficiency, fast heart rate or other arrhythmias, and hyperthyroidism.I have been on many herbs, in combination. These herbs DO work, I have made more improvement in the last 6 months than I have in the last three years on Western drugs, but they are not harmless! They also work better in combination with other herbs than alone. In Chinese Medicine, the fewer the herbs in a formula, the more potent the formula and the greater potential for overdose and side effects (formulas with fewer herbs are for the most severe conditions.) When I started, my formula contained 4 herbs, and I was expected to check in three times a week to report symptoms. It is all about balance, if you use one herb it can work well...until it shifts your internal balance, then it won't work any more (like licorice.) The combinations target the action of the herbs, protect against toxicity, and control the desired properties. Find an old Traditional Chinese Herbalist and go see them. Ethnobotany/ethnopharmacology is the wave of the future for Western Medicine...it has 2000 years of recorded history behind it.BTW, I have never been on this one. Because it is considered bitter and cool, it would trash my system within a day or two. (Unfortunately, I know this one from experience from other bitter/cool herbs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 How do you find out what catagory the herbs are in as far as hot/cold/bitter etc. Do you have a book that tells you these things? What if you try to figure it out on your own with TCM help. I have one book on TCM, I'll have to pull it out and re-read it. I have to really be careful with herbs because I do find them to be too stimulating for me. Recently tried Ashwaganda and it sent me into overdrive. It did the opposite of what it was supposed to do. I then read to cut it down, considerably and take smaller amounts until your system gets adjusted. I could take it if I cut it down to 1/4 pill. Still not sure if it's the right thing for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firewatcher Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 "How do you find out what catagory the herbs are in as far as hot/cold/bitter etc. Do you have a book that tells you these things?"It is in the Chinese Materia Medica. I would not even attempt to diagnose or dose myself. There are too many variables, and Chinese medicine is just as complex as Western medicine! Unless you are adept at reading pulses (there are at least six,) and tongues and symptoms...I wouldn't try it. I go to an Oriental Medicine practitioner regularly. He prescribes the herbs and dosages. Honestly, trying to figure it out yourself is like going to a pharmacy and "trying" a pill because you like what it says on the bottle. Herbs, especially the Chinese herbals, ARE medicine! They work, they are natural...and they can harm you just as easily as any chemical. I'd find a good Chinese medicine doc/herbalist and get their opinion. My GP is NOT happy that I am doing this, there are many herb/drug interactions, but I am being careful and he knows it, so he is accepting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noreen Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 RamaI used to use motherwort frequently as a new mother for ease of anxiety. It has helped subsequently now that I know they are adrenal surges. I used a couple drops of the tincture in a glass of water. As info for others, this is a safe herb to use while breastfeeding.Thanks for posting this as I ran out a while back and was unable to find a source that delivers. Then, as happens more to us than the norm, I forgot.There have been a few conversations on the forum about it but I had no luck trying to paste in my search results.tks again,noreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramakentesh Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Ive also had great success from chinese herbs but find that they make me feel bad if I take them when in feeling ok and just a little potsie.thanks for the feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I just tried oral motherwort for the first time today and my bp hasn't spiked nearly as high as usual since I took it several hours ago. No weird side effects either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I just tried oral motherwort for the first time today and my bp hasn't spiked nearly as high as usual since I took it several hours ago. No weird side effects either.Yay, Angela ---told you ----it works for me too.Issie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maia Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 not yet because my bp is usually low and ive heard it can lower it more. im curious though. on tcm herbs right now and i can secod the cool herbs trashing your system. i was on cool/bitter herbs for a while and it seemed to be working wonders then as mentioned above also, as your sytem changes they can no longer work/work in ways you would not like them to.. im over cooling right now! oy the SOB-shortness of breath... I think i read somewhere that a person in this forum has found great success with it... maybe they will chime in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maia Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 ha ha, good timing issie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 ha ha, good timing issie!Ha! Yes ---it was! I agree with you on the herbals. You have to rotate on and off and take breaks or there can be issues. It is best to either take weekend breaks or take for a few months and take weeks of breaks in between. There are many different ways to rotate and cycle them. You have to trial different techniques to see which works best for you.Issie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maia Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 From the Chinese Materia Medica:Find an old Traditional Chinese Herbalist and go see them. Ethnobotany/ethnopharmacology is the wave of the future for Western Medicine...it has 2000 years of recorded history behind it.So true!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maia Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 cant figure out the multi quote thing...Quoted from Issie:Ha! Yes ---it was! I agree with you on the herbals. You have to rotate on and off and take breaks or there can be issues. It is best to either take weekend breaks or take for a few months and take weeks of breaks in between. There are many different ways to rotate and cylce them. You have to trial different techniques to see which works best for you.IssieSo True too!!I think in the AM im switching back to an extra bag i had from a couple weeks ago to see if i can warm up again. Id take a break but we are trying to get a baseline first. so, soon, hopefully...sorry to hijack the post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Yeah, herbology is interesting --especially Chinese technique of herbology. I've learned a little about it - but, it is so complex that I never went so deep into it all to learn everything about it. There is a lot to do with the different humors of a person and hot/cold etc. Then there is looking at physical signs in the eyes, tongue, pulse, etc. So, much to it. If I were going to get into Chinese herbals very deep ---for sure I'd want an expert in that field (or, I'd need to go back into more study - myself). Issie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maia Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 ill pm you about the tcm herbs...about the motherwort and the OP, its recommended for adrenaline surges... what if the surges are near constant when vertical... do you take it daily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I did start out daily for a few weeks - a couple times a day. Now, I don't need it as much. It really will calm the surges down. Another thing that helps is Unsulphured Black Molasses. Surprising the results from that too. It is high in potassium.Issie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maia Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 oh thank you! i was looking for my molasses the other day and then completely forgot about it! ug, super brain fog lately. makes sense too, same reason coconut water works wonders sometimes(for me anyway). if my next herb adjustment doesnt help, I may have to try some motherwort ..if i warm up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 What do you mean by "warm up" ? I am confused. Are you talking about body temp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Herbs are either warming or cooling. We can need cooling herbs for certain issues and warming herbs. It has to do with the properties of the herbs and how they affect us.Issie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maia Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 By warm up i really mean warm up. something was changed and im just cold, really cold, so much so that my fingers are bluish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 bump - things that seem to help me for surges ---motherwort and black strap molasses (which is high in potassium) Issie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanice Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Woooiiwwwwwww thank you Issie! This is totally needed and loved and appreciated! Thank you! I love you now lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issie Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Thank you! I love you now lol! LOL - What you didn't love me before???? You're welcome! Hope it helps you. Issie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanice Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 LOL - What you didn't love me before???? You're welcome! Hope it helps you.IssieOf coarse I did! Always have. :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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